Pam Popper, ND, PhD is the nutritionist who has vastly improved my life and my wife Ginger’s life. We have a wide-ranging talk about the similar problems in medicine, psychiatry and nutrition, most of which are driven by industrial profit making instead of sound ethics and science. Pam and I share our mutual critiques and our vision for how it should be in these life-saving fields that too often ruin lives. Hear about our cosponsored conference November 10-12, 2017 in Columbus, Ohio, including two talks by me and two by the amazing Peter Gøtzsche, MD from Denmark. Peter is a real scientist , a profound critic of conventional medicine and psychiatry, and a wildly entertaining speaker; you don’t want to miss him.