The guests were David Shurter and Pat Goodwin, Satanic Ritual Abuse survivors who were tortured in the MKUltra program. Pat is also the founder of Ivory Garden, an online survivor support group, and she will host the Seattle Trauma and Dissociation conference on October 7th. They discussed the importance of exposing the pedophilia and human trafficking of children in the US and gave current statistics on the number of children involved and the people and government agencies and institutions that enable it to continue. This issue must be exposed and these children must be saved.

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