On today’s program, Vince speaks with TruthOut’s top environmental journalist, his friend Dahr Jamail. Vince first met Dahr back in 2007 when he was working with the antiwar movement and Dahr was writing his book on GI Resistance (after returning from Iraq, where his unembedded reporting was second to none). Today, however, they talk about abrupt climate change, staying sane in the context of ecological collapse, and why they remain engaged in activism.